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Think would say that barack obama violated that standard? >> that's exactly what james madison warned you against is that you would create effectively a vote of no confidence standard in our constitution. >> well, then are we in danger of abusing our own power of doing enormous violence? my democratic colleagues have been searching for a pretext for impeachment since before the president was sworn in on this panel, professor karlan called president trump's election illegitimate in 2017. she implied impeachment was a remedy. professor feldman advocated impeaching the president over a tweet that...

In a quote criminal cover-up. let's bring in dr. bill bennett, former secretary of education. always great to have you here. you listen to the whole interview and what he said on pelosi, he said her statements on him engaged in criminal behavior is what she suggested were disgraceful and quoted a radio talk show host calling it a fascist statement. >> well, you know, you remember alice in wonderland, the queen of hearts that said cut off her head? what about the trial. sentence first, trial later. that's what she is saying here. for a speaker of the house to call for a president of the united ...

Of law on its head, as you know. people like president trump are presumed innocent and to suggest otherwise from the podium of the justice department is a wild abuse of power. that's the "alice in wonderlandd approach to justice. verdict first, sentence first, verdict later. he wants to sentence him to impeachment? this is inappropriate for the justice department to be doing. certainly an official. there needs to be an ethics investigation in what went on with that statement and, frankly, an ethics audit of the entire mueller operation, because, as you laid out, there are serious concerns abou...

Policy, sentence first, verdict afterwards. he works backwards from the conclusion that he's drawn about the country or the leader. and you see in his reaction to this, to these north korean provocations, how his desire to have a deal, his argument that he alone can fix it, that his personal relationship with the north korean dictator is allowing him to mind breakthroughs that no other president could, how that shifts the leverage to north korea and all aspects of the relationship, because it is so palpable that the president is reluctant at any point to acknowledge any bump in the road, much ...

What would the president's reaction be? that tells you that he's tempering his reaction to what he believes is an ability to get kim jong-un to ultimately make a deal. that seems prettiey evident rig now to all of us that kim jong-un is not going to make that deal. what has happened is that in the year since the singapore summit, they've continued to produce nuclear material, nuclear material that can go into bombs and we believe they've probably produced more weapons. so he hasn't gotten the freeze that the iran nuclear deal got in iran. >> that's a very important point. ron brownstein, to da...