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Americans are not just politically divided, they're culturally divided. it's really hard to know how we come back together even though that is certainly we are one nation. eventually we'll have to do that. i think that the challenge for the democrats in this election is really going to be how to make sure that your base is motivated and not just depressed. and after three years, it's very easy to get upset by what the white house is doing. day in and day out onslaught of the attack on not just norms, right, but on justice and reality. so how do the democrats actually translate that into votes ...

The senate anyway it needs to happen because if he gets acquitted future presidents will go across the line or cross the line with impunity. >> you spent time on capitol hill before you were at the white house and i know you have been watching this debate unfold of how broad these articles of impeachment could be. came up with two at the end here. i was struck by what ralph nader wrote. charges should be broader. trump correctly characterized them as the lightest presidential impeachment accusations and more into centuries. i'll have you respond to the latter part of that. they could have face...

How this works. so if he can keep republicans in line which he has proven that he can do, then, his defense, you know, it doesn't matter much what they say because he's going to be acquitted. >> we're looking forward to trying the likes to which we haven't seen many times before in u.s. history. what does what we saw in the committee room tell us about what is going to happen on the floor of the senate if and when we get to that point? >> it might be less because the fix is already in. mitch mcconnell told us that. this is some good old fashioned soviet style justice where mitch mcconnell when...

Wants proven. i want to ask you about the supreme court's decision with regard to the president's finances. the justice made it possible for these cases to be heard during the current court term in march with a decision by the end of june just as the general election campaign heats up. we're looking forward to a heck of a summer here. >> yes, we are. but shout out because it seems that not only is the white house and trump pushing back because of what could happen in the election but it -- for the peril that awaits him when he is no longer president of the united

That support and respect, they may find themselves without the police protection they need. >> former attorney general eric holder called those wordsant theticcal to the most tenants of quality and justice in a "washington post" op-ed, unprecedented takedown of an attorney general by another. in that piece he writes, william barr is unfit to lead the justice department. david jolly, i want to use that piece as the spine for this conversation. he said attorney general bill barr made a series of public statements and taken action that's are so plainly ideological, so nakedly partisan and deeply ...