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Has taken aggressive steps including drone strikes and so forth to combat terrorism and yet there's very little debate about the civil liberties aspect to all of this. from the aclu's perspective here, how do you grade the administration thus far? >> well, alex, of course we start with the aclu by joining all americans today in remembering the unspeakable losses of 11 years ago, and as we reflect back on the lost turbulent decade i think we have to acknowledge and grapple with the fact that the post-9/11 era was a path that we took -- we took a wrong turn in this path. we turned to policies of...

"washington post"/abc news poll asks americans which candidate do you trust to do a better chance to handle terrorism, president obama beating mitt romney by 11 points. in terms of the long linage of democrats and democratic policies and priorities and positions, a feather in their cap i would assume. >> right. as steve was saying during the break or maybe it was before the show, that, you know, the democratic party today is like -- it's sort of a mirror image you said of 2004. a lot of that has to do with the killing of osama bin laden, that is a huge feather in the president's cap. any presi...

Notion. these last 11 years have been really tough for this country. really tough for muslim-americans, arab-americans, really tough for people who appear to be different, and tough for americans in general in terms of the freedoms that we've had to give up in order to be safe. really tough for travelers, really tough for consumers, really tough for people who just want to live their lives with dignity and respect and can't because of some mad man who decided to wreak terror on new york and washington and a field in pennsylvania. >> and certainly, i mean, september 11th is one thing, but also ...

>>neil: how much does it push it up? >>guest: well over $200 billion in fees over the course of this. >>neil: this is more expensive than we thought, we found out we have more americans unensured than ever, so, something went wrong here. what? >>guest: that is right. the gist of the obama health law and part of it is in the budget, is that government is paying a much larger share of the health care budget. it will be 50 percent by 2019 and the key is we all want good health care and if we concerned about government spending reduce the share of the spending rather than denying people care and r...

Boeing. >>guest: south carolina, and texas, and how about separating americans. we see it along economic lines and race lines and it does not matter. we know the president's pushing unions and sicking the nlrb in a few states. >>neil: why go out of your way to say unionizing ... if president bush said the nonunionized shop, it seemed to be an add on we didn't need. >>guest: it is a complete tremendous add on we do not need and it backfires but it dovetails into the notion of end sourcing. that is scaring me. what we are talking about is punishing some of the most successful multinational corpo...