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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20191113 16:15:00

Dr. hill s recent replacement at the nsc on july 28th. mr. morrison told me that the call could have been better and that president trump suggested that president zelensky or his staff meet with mr. giuliani and attorney general william barr. i didn t see any official readout of the call until it was publicly released. by august i was more concerned. on august 16 i exchanged text messages with ambassador volker in which i learned that a senior advisor to president zelensky asked that the united states submit an official request for an investigation into burisma s alleged violations of ukrainian law if that is what the united states desired. a formal u.s. request to the ukrainians to conduct an investigation based on violations of their own law struck me as improper and i ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20191113 16:22:00

President zelensky was dependent on a public announcement of the investigations. in fact, ambassador sondland said, everything was dependent on such an announcement, including security assistance. he said president trump wanted president zelensky in a public box by making a public statement about ordering such investigations. in the same september 1st call, i told ambassador sondland that president trump should have nor respect for another head of state and that what he described was not in the interest of either president trump or president zelensky. at that point i asked ambassador sondland to push back on president trump s demand. ambassador sondland pledged to try. i suggested the possibility that ukrainian prosecutor general rather than president zelensky would make a statement about the investigations, potentially in coordination with attorney general barr s probe into the investigation of interference in the 2016 elections. ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20191113 16:51:00

Security assistance and the demonstration of support. it was much more alarming. the white house meeting was one thing. security assistance was much more alarming. now, ambassador taylor, in your opening statement, you outlined a very detailed timeline. and in fact we have a written copy here, and you included some phrases and words in quotations. did you take notes of this conversation on september 1st with ambassador sondland? i did. and did you take notes related to most of the conversations, if not all of them, that you recited in your opening statement? all of them, mr. goldman. and what are those quotations that you include in your opening statement reflect? they reflect my notes on the exact words that i heard on that call. so it was if i put those in quotes, that meant that those ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20191113 16:13:00

Also on july 20th, i had a phone conversation with alexander done lop, president zelensky s national security adviser who emphasized that president zelensky did not want to be used as an instrument in a u.s. re-election campaign. the next day i texted both ambassadors volker and sondland about president zelensky s concern. on july 25th, president trump and president zelensky had the long-awaited phone conversation. even though i was acting ambassador and was scheduled to meet the following day, i received no readout of the call from the white house t. ukrainian government issued a short, cryptic summary. during a previously planned july 26th meeting, president zelensky told ambassador volker and me that he was happy with the call but ndid not lap rate. president zelensky asked about the face-to-face meeting in the ....

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Transcripts for MSNBC MSNBC Live With Craig Melvin 20191113 16:11:00

They should have nothing to do with domestic politics. dr. hill said ambassador bolden referred to this deal as a drug deal after the july 10th meeting. ambassador bolton opposed a call between president zelensky and president trump out of concern it would be a disaster. needless to say, the ukrainians in the meeting were confused. ambassador bolton and the regular channel wanted to talk about security, energy and reform. ambassador sondland, a participant in the irregular channel, wanted to talk about the connection between a white house meeting and ukrainian investigations. also during our july 19th call, dr. hill informed me that ambassador volker met with mr. giuliani to discuss ukraine. this caught me by surprise. the next day i asked ambassador volker about that meeting but received no response. i began to sense that these two separate decision making channels, the regular and the ....

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