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Prove? >> nothing. i think he wanted to have the intellectual debate about america that we had between ayers and desouza. he doesn't have a lot of problem talking about his past. however this is the first time certainly he's been held to account in this way. i read all of his sequester views in print. i watched all of the ones he did in sit down fashion. no one has ever -- the problem with interviewing bill ayers is he's smart and philosophical. he's an expert and defending his actions. i went at it sort of as a lawyer/journalist and took him through point by point. i didn't need a philosophic...

You want to explain something. what do you think he's trying to prove? >> nothing. i think he wanted to have the intellectual debate about america that we had between ayers and desouza. he doesn't have a lot of problem talking about his past. however this is the first time certainly he's been held to account in this way. i read all of his sequester views in print. i watched all of the ones he did in sit down fashion. no one has ever -- the problem with interviewing bill ayers is he's smart and philosophical. he's an expert and defending his actions. i went at it sort of as a lawyer/journalist ...