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Harper. thanks very much for coming in. congressman harper, first to you. assuming the senate passes this and by all accounts they will, now that mitch mcconnell and harry reid are aboard. if how will you vote, congressman? >> thanks, wolf. look, i don't think we can flirt around with disaster on the debt ceiling and while this doesn't have anywhere near what i would like to have in it, i will be voting yes because we have a lot of seniors, people that are dependent upon their pensions, other issues that are there. and we are pleased that we're going to have the income verification and the fac...

Democrats, remember not that long ago there was a vote that almost passed barely by 12 votes to de-fund the nsa, that was not some outrageous act, which is well this is the law of the land. we can't hold a vote, it almost passed. >> it is because radicals and conservative -- insurgents both found common cause to really change things in washington. >> no, but i think the difference is, the right, that part of the tea party found an independent funding source to enable them to challenge. they did this jim demint thing, go after republicans, take them out. they did it with huge amounts of money. ...

In the house. i was wondering what you think about whether you know, nancy pelosi said earlier, embrace it, we need to get this off the table. so we can go forward. democrats have done a lot of embracing the suck, and the budget we are at now is way closer to where paul ryan wants to the house to be than it from where the house progressive caucus would like us to be. >> which is what paul ryan's point was to all the tea party people. look, the reality is that we do have a divided government. the question is what is the alternative. this is far belttter than what would have happened, absent wit...