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Sequestration thing. figure out continuing resolutions. because we have no certainty on how to plan. we can't put money against strategy. we can't put money against priorities. we simply cut based on a real meat ax formula. and nobody's saying that we should spend more on defense. everybody thinks that coming out of two wars, we ought to spend less. and we should. >> richard? >> how do you keep your pledge to veterans and at the same time have a serious defense budget? right now you know better than anybody, you add up all the money that's going into health care, all the money that's going int...

Haven't flown on delta. because -- >> neil: i might have just given you -- but people get frustrated. >> if you look at where i think the frustration lies in the industry, the frustration lice in two places. one, tsa when you have the lines at the airport, number two, customs and border patrol, coming in and clearing customs and there's a long line. and number three, the air traffic control system is the same system we had 30 years ago. so -- >> neil: that got worse with the sequestration thing. >> we fixed that. >> neil: what did you think of that whole dustup? >> if thought it was totally un...

In fact no signs period. which weed pointed out when we covered the sequestration thing, it was inelegant and sloppy but the backup backbone was some cutting so it wasn't going to do anything horrific but was promising it cut something. cult the growth of something. but i do know they consistently do not swing the sequester doom and gloomers way. that is what is clear. tom says, looking at all of this and understanding that there's a big old secret disconnect. they still hold out that possibility, tom, that there will be hell to pay and we will see it and soon. again, we did not see it in apri...

. and charles payne, adam lashinsky, charlie gasperino. >> a small fraction thinks we're headed in the right direction. a pox on both houses and lack of leadership and i've got to tell you the sequestration thing has taken it to a whole other level. the president has to understand he can't offer a compromise and say if you don't step it we're not compromising. a compromise is give and take on both sides. fanning the flames of fear on this thing is not only disingenuous was harmful. the president can say, hey, it took off even if we had sequestration, if congress would try to stop the pr war. >...

The obama tax cuts. that was the scenarios rinse were afraid of. >> steve: it looks like a republicans say it's a done deal, we'll have to raise taxes on the most successful. but we will live to fight another day. that day is when the debt ceiling comes up in a couple of months and the sequestration thing, they kicked it down -- two months! so the republicans think, okay. when we get down to the talk about spending, we're going to be big winners. >> they knew that raising taxes on the wealthy polled badly for them. that most americans were in favor of that. we're not on the winning side. they ...