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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150524:03:36:00

something had happened, something was going on. what had happened? >> the only thing i can think of is my bunkee had a couple black eyes. >> tell me about that. >> i can't really talk about it. >> we kind of talked about it a little bit before this and we had a little bit of an idea. do you want to elaborate on that at all? not at all? okay. fair enough. at some point you're probably going to be served with another jail violation. going to be for fighting in jail. >> oh, wow. >> obviously you and your cellie had an altercation at some point. nobody is deemed the aggressor yet or the victim yet. two men are locked in a cell and somebody has injuries. there obviously has been a fight. so it is not the end of the -- not the end of the world for you. >> i understand. >> you should get your notice of violation. sergeant will call you out, conduct a hearing, hear your side of the story. if you're found guilty, he'll issue punishment. >> okay. >> during our investigation,

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150524:05:05:00

>> the search process has angered one of the newly arrived state prisoners. >> he is agitated because we are going through his property and legal materials page by page. >> he became threatening when they found suspicious documents in his legal paperwork and confiscated them. >> he is a state prisoner and he's serving 30 plus years. he's aggravated. i'll put extra staff on him. >> the jail takes no risks when it comes with problems with new arrivals, especially from the state prison system. in 6f, sergeant sarah herman has just learned that the agitated inmate is headed her way. >> i'm getting a new arrival from the booking area. my sergeant just called me and told me that this gentleman is not happy. taking one, two, three, four, five, six. so once he's out of their custody, we try to bring it down just a little bit emotionally so that he doesn't cause any

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150524:07:12:00

you tearing up my property, is that where we're going with this? >> sergeant sarah herman came to the hillsboro county jail in tampa, florida, after a career in television marketing. >> after 9/11, i wanted to do something a little bit different, something a little more meaningful. tell me what keeps bringing you back here. it fulfilled everything i wanted to do when it comes to helping people. sometimes it don't feel like we're making a difference. but if you just touch one perp, one little word, i don't know if it's helping, but it does for me and i like it. >> while sergeant herman was motivated by her desire to help people, she's anything but soft. >> zero tolerance. i don't want to see you anymore. >> she's known by inmates and staff alike with a commanding presence with a zero tolerance policy for breaking the rules. after two inmates in her unit

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150524:09:36:00

something had happened, something was going on. what had happened? >> the only thing i can think of is my bunkee had a couple black eyes. >> tell me about that. >> i can't really talk about it. >> we kind of talked about it a little bit before this and we had a little bit of an idea. do you want to elaborate on that at all? not at all? okay. fair enough. at some point you're probably going to be served with another jail violation. going to be for fighting in jail. >> oh, wow. >> obviously you and your cellie had an altercation at some point. nobody is deemed the aggressor yet or the victim yet. two men are locked in a cell and somebody has injuries. there obviously has been a fight. so it is not the end of the -- not the end of the world for you. >> i understand. >> you should get your notice of violation. sergeant will call you out, conduct a hearing, hear your side of the story. if you're found guilty, he'll issue punishment. >> okay. >> during our investigation, weston kruger still to this day

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150524:07:43:00

i still know that he misses me and he needs his mom. >> jessica, who is in jail on a drug trafficking charge to which she pled not guilty, was recently accused of trying to sell prescription pills. she admits to swallowing a small packet of pills when deputies attempted to search her, but she says she was only holding them for the inmate who made the accusation. >> you, with your long history, yes, you know where i'm going. >> but this is only one of many disciplinary problems she's had in the two months she's been at hillsboro county. sergeant sarah herman has come to talk to her about her behavior. >> your history says you can't cope in general population because you've had issues with everybody. >> i mean, it's not all my fault but i understand what you're saying. >> let's talk about fault. real quick, if you're not in it, it couldn't happen. so either own it or you don't.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150524:09:57:00

i ain't got nothing against homos. it is what it is. but i do got something against casper. >> back downstairs, casper is still agitated and refuses to enter big daddy's former cell. even when he's no longer in it. >> i'm not moving until the sergeant comes in here and talks to me. you're going to drag me out of here. this is [ bleep ]. >> i'm going to let you pass right now as far as a major or anything, if i write you up on a major, you're going to go to the hole. you don't want to do that. for now, just go cool off in your cell. we'll get a hold of the sergeant, all right? >> all right. i expect the sergeant to be here tonight. >> all right. >> right now i basically used some verbal judo. i talked one guy into moving upstairs who initially didn't want to move upstairs and i talked him into going into a cell who really didn't want to be in that cell at all. he wants to talk to the sergeant. we'll get a hold of a sergeant. and no one's life is at risk at this point.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150524:07:34:00

>> the sergeant gave me the third degree last night. he said we ain't going to have no problems, are we? but this is jail, you have to do what you have to do. >> caponi's transfer isn't the only good news. >> we've got to eat. >> his sister just put some money on his books so he can buy snacks from the jail canteen. >> caponi says this time around, instead of hustling canteen, he's sharing it. they have pooled their snacks to make a jailhouse burrito. >> this is the spread and the noodles are right here. >> what the bread is going to do is bulk it up and expand it. >> it's going to make a dough. it's like pizza dough.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150524:09:47:00

sfliemt. >> did you want to call any witnesses? >> yeah, i'll call witnesses. cell six and eight. >> cell six and eight. which inmates? >> i don't know the other one. >> i'll find out who he is. basically you're going to refuse to sign, but i'm going to give you your copy, all right? you're given five days and i'll let the sergeant know you want to appeal this, all right? here you go. >> all right. >> before any sanctions are handed down, inmates have the right to have their witnesses questioned about the alleged violation. >> cash is calling you as a witness. i need to get a statement from you, all right? based on his earlier jail rule violation. i'm just opening this so we can hear each other better. what do you have to say about what happened? >> what is he charged for?

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150524:03:47:00

>> to you want to call any witnesses? >> yeah, i'll call witnesses. cell six and eight. >> cell six and eight. which inmates? >> i don't know the other one. >> i'll find out who he is. basically you're going to refuse to sign, but i'm going to give you your copy, all right? you're given five days and i'll let the sergeant know you want to appeal this, all right? here you go. >> all right. >> before any sanctions are handed down, inmates have the right to have their witnesses questioned about the alleged violation. >> cash is calling you as a witness. i need to get a statement from you, all right? based on his earlier jail rule violation. i'm just opening this so we can hear each other better. what do you have to say about what happened? >> what is he charged for? >> not a criminal charge, a

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20150524:07:08:00

i don't just say you're going to give me this or that or i'm going to kill you. i'm going to approach you and be your best friend. you're going to confide me all your deepest secrets. and once i have that, your strengths and weaknesses, then i can dwell on that. the ones i was extorting, yeah, yeah, they admitted it. so no, i don't feel bad by what i did to them, because they don't feel bad what they did to those kids. coming up, a surprise shakedown led by a sergeant with a no-nonsense reputation. >> you give my deputy a hard time, we're going to run it military style, strict. >> and later, jessica faces a new harsh reality. >> i don't get to see or call my son. >> this is the first time i've ever seen you with tears.

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