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Dust on anyone else. all the people who worked for them over the years. pierre salinger, tried to get elected to the senate in california. he was defeated. kenny o'donnell, ran for governor of massachusetts. all defeated in the first try. it's not been something they've been able to share, their magic, if you will. even their in-laws were not successful, like sergeant schrieber. they didn't particularly help him either. this was the first time, when they -- they basically gave the magic touch to obama back in the spring of '08 when caroline kenne kennedy wrote the op-ed piece in the "new york ...

President-elect, a lot of people held their noses and voted for donald trump. it doesn't mean he has ji legitimacy, that he can say to -- and regard all of the institutions of democracy as his play things from now on. being president doesn't give you a license to undermine the integrity of your government. >> i understand, secretary reich, that you and your colleagues op your side of the line are going to be making this argument for four years or eight years. >> this is not about that. >> i think donald trump understands that. but the american people made their decision. it's over. get on with...

Culture of lobbyists, the culture of consultants, the consultant class, et cetera. >> and the culture -- a big part of the culture of washington has been conflicts of interest that are skating the letter of the law. maybe they observe the letter of the law but they are not observing the spirit of law. there are ethical problems. i mean, donald trump is creating an ethically challenged administration before he even begins. eight days before. and one other thing. one other thing. i was amazed at that press conference yesterday, donald trump says oh, well, the public doesn't care. how does he kno...

They had all these vast interests. the merchandise mart in chicago for one. they never gave it up until 1998. it went all the way through jfk's presidency. nobody said a thing about it. nobody cared. the former president, sergeant schrieber, he went into the administration. the whole thing was held by the family. so i just think that you've got to understand this is the way this is going to work and we're going to have to cope with it. >> secretary reich, about the point the president-elect made yesterday that he has in his words a no conflict situation because he's president, he could -- he s...

Government. they work. to somehow suggest the sons get out of the business i think is unrealistic. this is like the release of the taxes. i grant you politically anytime there -- there's going to be a political story about this. i look back to the kennedy administration. they had all these vast interests of merchandise in chicago for one. they never gave it up until 1998. went through jfk's presidency. nobody said a thing about it. nobody cared. the former president, sergeant schrieber, he went into the administration. the whole thing was held by the family. i think you've got to understand th...