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We request that the actuary look at all three models discussed recognizing there might be a slight distinction between self funded and flex but i think at this stage to have an informed discussion to allow us to see all of the aspects and were not down to decision time that we want to do this, and if we decide at the next meeting well, having the other option in the midst of the two were going to talk about is more confusing to everyone then we can take that step at that time but i would like to start with all of the complete information so we can make an informed choice. Yes. Everything but t...

Written here. I want to say a few words and your questions are really important especially in the non kaiser world you really worry about the fee for service and the captated and how theyre aligned. I think that is less an issue with kaiser given the current structure for kaiser. We talked with pg e and went self funded and talking about the reporting requirements and the performance of that contract ensures that the organization of kaiser continues to focus on appropriation utilization and appropriate out comes so i think there are ways and especially under this scenario and maybe more with t...

So, im kind of stuck between a rock and a hard place and i was hoping that the commission or the board would be able to help me get to the bottom of this. And i have gotten a lot of correspondence from them that thats all that theyll pay. Id like to have our manager of member services, mitchell gray. Id like to have him work with you on that. Ive got paper. Okay, fine. Thank you. [speaker not understood], retired and active firefighters. Id like to basically piggyback on what claire said regarding these rates, but also add to the city leaving themselves open for discrimination suits. If im a S...

Kaiser world you really worry about the fee for service and the captated and how theyre aligned. I think that is less an issue with kaiser given the current structure for kaiser. We talked with pg e and went self funded and talking about the reporting requirements and the performance of that contract ensures that the organization of kaiser continues to focus on appropriation utilization and appropriate out comes so i think there are ways and especially under this scenario and maybe more with this than the other agreement that we have under the kaiser agreement if we pursue this to make sure th...

Important especially in the non kaiser world you really worry about the fee for service and the captated and how theyre aligned. I think that is less an issue with kaiser given the current structure for kaiser. We talked with pg e and went self funded and talking about the reporting requirements and the performance of that contract ensures that the organization of kaiser continues to focus on appropriation utilization and appropriate out comes so i think there are ways and especially under this scenario and maybe more with this than the other agreement that we have under the kaiser agreement i...