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>> statement because 15 million people are going to lose their health insurance. i think those people would think this is a cut. >> you know what the 15 -- you know what people have heard under obamacare is that under obamacare the average premiums have increased over $5,000 a year. obamacare is a failure, and what's happening -- >> what are we talking about obamacare? >> i didn't interrupt you. >> yep. >> now, one of the things i like about debating bernie is he's honest. when he ran in vermont, he ran as a socialist. >> no,y. >> an unabashed socialist. >> independent. the only serving indepe...

Of it, so are you and so are the american people. >> you're talking to the longest serving independent in the history of the united states. >> gina. >> so speaker paul ryan has been on record saying anyone who jeopardizes national security and classified information should have their security clearance removed immediately. should the same standard apply to the president as well? >> the president apparently, from what we're all ealearning things has the ability to do many things as the executive other people can't do. i just think that's kind of out there. we -- look, he's in bigger trouble tha...

Was trying to mask those donations. >> everything you say clips can be taken out and potentially used in ads by the opposition. that word "only" may come back to haunt her. i understand bernie sanders didn't show up at the barbecue. do we know why not? >> he appeared on "face the nation" and he has two events this afternoon. we have hillary clinton, then martin o'malley, and now cornell west, the princeton professor, controversial radical activist is speaking on bernie sanders behalf here. cornell west has been very critical of barack obama in the leadup to the 2012 re-election and it comes at...

It's pretty mild. i i think don and debbie are right. it is mild compared to republicans. you are going to have differences. i'm for hillary and i like both candidates a lot and i think they are doing a lot for the country. i think a lot of this is a bit of hype for cable to be truthful about it and i'm on cable. >> what are you appearing on now? >> msnbc. >> don't bite the hand that feeds you. yesterday in new hampshire bernie sanders filed his paperwork to get on the primary ballot as a democrat. let's watch. >> i am the longest serving independent in the history of the united states congres...

Speak to many of them are angry and you've drawn the largest crowds that we've seen in this political season, 20,000 this week in boston. you've also said you will endorse the nominee if it is not you. are those people that are angry going to accept you supporting someone if it's not you? would you be, would they turn on you and say you delivered them, sold them out? >> that's a fair question and then the answer is maybe. this is what i said, as you know i'm the longest serving independent in the history of the united states congress and before i made the decision of whether or not to run it w...