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>> so the russians are doing something that looks very much like this. a firm by this guy meeting with don jr. and reading the story reminded me that these people were interviewd and floating out there. there's a guy who's an extremely sketchy guy who has floated around, who has a record, has connections to the russians and various middle eastern regimes. the ex-black water founder. nadir, zamel,ter mueller has talked to all of them, right? >> correct. he was telling mueller what he knew about the russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. now pub lack he didn't know much at all and it...

Nadir, zamel,ter mueller has talked to all of them, right? >> correct. he was telling mueller what he knew about the russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 election. now pub lack he didn't know much at all and it wasn't about setting opback channel but he's on the record saying he's participated in the mueller probe. as we're putting together contacts of how these different moving parts might make sense is particularly with the wiki strat threat, when they were disus canning social media, manipulation were important is the people working there add the time says in retrospect, that does sound...