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It is not binding. you don't have the to accept it. this does not apply to the families of people who died aboard that ship or roughly 100 people who were injured. they are not part of this settlement offer. bill: this will not settle these claims? that you can contest them and still have to work through the victims of this disaster? >> there are those and there are already class action lawsuits which have been filed by italian advocacy, the consumer advocacy groups, hired a law firm out of miami to sue carnival cruise lines, the parent company. they think they can get roughly million dollars ...

Money? >> i've left a few calls with the legal representative that had contacted me before the case with the settlement offer and i've left a couple of messages and haven't had any of my calls returned. >> okay, all right. wasn't that the original plan to jack your interest rates and not return your phone calls? you won in court, but they are continuing to continuing to take the money. what about the credit card rates. honestly i laugh because i'm in disbelief at the audacity. i shouldn't be at this point considering what they have done to our country, but how high is the credit card rate you'...

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Their defense being that maybe michael cohen went rogue, paid all this money and donald trump didn't flow aboknow about t yoi. you seem to be pressing that, saying you have to tell donald trump about this offer. >> if mr. cohen does not want to tell mr. trump about it or if mr. rosen does not want to tell mr. trump about it, so be it. i find it hard to brief that mr. trump doesn't know about it. the bottom line is our settlement offer requires the signatures of all the parties to the dispute. so that's mr. trump, the llc that mr. cohen set up and my client. and people have said, well, there's ...

Require donald trump to argue in court that the nation's interests require stopping the free press to protect some sort of stormy-related secret. that's background. now let's go to the man of the hour, michael vanotty, welcome to "the beat." >> thanks for having me. >> have you heard anything from the trump side tonight? >> we haven't heard anything back. but we don't think it's a big challenge. we think it's a fair settlement offer and one that should be fairly considered and accepted by mr. cohen and the president. >> there's a point that you have raised that i would call clever lawyering, a...