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Turning now to the duelling healthcare plans for 2020. it's medicare for all versus obamacare among the top democratic candidates. this afternoon, senator bernie sanders is going to be delivering what his campaign is calling a major address about his medicare for all plan. and this address is coming just days after former vice president joe biden laid out his healthcare proposal which retains the core structure of obamacare. our nbc road warriors are on the trail. garrett haake is in iowa with the former vice president. but we start with shaquille brewster on the trail in the burrow for us in ...

Poll numbers, this is a debate bernie sanders wants. he has an online quiz comparing vice president biden that he's made for medicare for all to those of mitch mcconnell. he's going to be laying out this full plan at about 4:00 p.m. later today. >> shaq, you said 30 to $40 trillion over ten years. what has this senator said about how he would pay for that plan? >> part of it, he's very honest about it, requiring a middle class tax increase. and that's a point that democrats say is going to be too disruptive for people, that people are not going to want to embrace. sanders points this ought and...