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Threat of military pressure, political costs and economic costs going on at the same time. have a conversation and give diplomacy a shot. all we're seeing from president biden is that he waives these sanctions supported by congress against nord stream 2, the energy pipeline that russian wants. that would be terrible for the nato alliance. not only do we not have a position of strength coming from the united states, we have a blink. president biden blinks. >> neil: i'm wondering what russia is up to? if they are behind either directly or incorrectly the hack attacks and they have increased in f...

We'll see you soon. >> neil: wow. bigger crowds there than at disneyland. thanks very much, susan li in miami for that big pow-wow. i think that technology is here to stay. the question is will it be rewarding. following on leon panetta saying that joe biden should still meet with vladimir putin even with all of these hack attacks on our country. someone says that would be a mistake. the meeting should be cancelled after this. some say this is my greatest challenge ever. but i've seen centuries of this. with a companion that powers a digital world, traded with a touch. the gold standard, so to...

Hack attacks in the united states have been steadily increasing and compromising our grid. that is a big worry with my next guest, pat fallon that joins us right now. congressman, so much we don't know. can you share at least what you know how widespread this was, how much vladimir putin knew and how much russia could have been involved? what do you know? >> neil, thanks for having me on. this is so important. unfortunately when we pay off the cyber terrorists, we'll get more of them. according to the fbi with the colonial pipeline attack, it was based in russia. personally i think putin is lo...

Soil. >> john: a short time ago at the white house, peter doocy asked jan saki why there has been an increase and uptick in the severity of these russian hack attacks since president biden took the oval office. here is what she said. >> i would say these are private sector entities who have a responsibility to put in place measures to protect their own cybersecurity. as it relates to criminal actors are taking action against private sector entities, i don't think i'm the right one to speak to that. i think you could certainly track down those cyber criminals in russia and have a good chat with...

All of this of course happening ahead of president biden's expected meeting with vladimir putin. how would you expect the president to respond to this? >> he talks a tough game, he says we're going to be tough on the russians come up vladimir putin a killer, but how many attacks, hack attacks do we hav to have? we crippled the american econom with the colonial pipeline, wha did we do, what was a response? we let the russians build a pipeline of their own to germinate, and we need to stand up to putin. i've studied him for decades going back to when he brought his dissertation. he is a bully an...