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Gowdy wouldn't let even another republican who wasn't on the committee in. so when you contrast that to this swarm of republicans trying to get in claiming they deserve to be in, it's just -- i mean, what's the word for what they're doing. >> desperate. that's what it is. the testimony we've seen this week has been so devastating to the core excuses we've seen from the republican administration that they're resorting to these tactics rather than address -- they're doing publicity stunts to try to distract away from the substance of the investigation. at the oend the day, it's not going to work...

For itself. i don't speak for the administration. i spoke for myself and my client. but the administration's goal is a little different but not terribly different. it is policy change in iran. >> i speak for myself and my client, andrea. how does that echo if his clients have agendas against the united states diplomatic core? >> first of all, the testimony to the hill from former ambassadors and current ambassadors is that rudy giuliani is speaking for the president but was taking over ukraine policy. and, so, it was through rudy giuliani that the president was getting his way or trying to get...

He stopped working for trump. he just began to do it in a very important way for where the story is going. giuliani worked as an adviser and a lawyer and a pundit. we all know about those roles. but there's more to it than that. this is key. whatever anyone thinks of giuliani's tv appearances, they're not criminal. that's not why he's under investigation tonight. whatever you think of his legal advocacy in the russia probe, it's not criminal. mueller indicted many people, including a lawyer, but not giuliani. no, the question facing giuliani now is if he acted as if not just a shadow diplomat,...

Trump is doubting giuliani's ability to keep representing him. they say that while giuliani will continue to be his lawyer, he will not work on any issues that touch ukraine. okay, let's tackle rudy giuliani. he has been acting as a shadow diplomat while being his personal attorney, giuliani says he is trying to dig up. dirt. >> anyone who says otherwise is

Intelligence background. what the hell is he doing being the point person on foreign affairs, on peace in the middle east, running around as a shadow diplomat in saudi arabia? >> he's a smart businessperson. >> no, because he's the president's son-in-law who has all kinds of business problems like jeffrey just said and he needs the money for foreign investments. >> if i'm reading the story, and gloria and shimon and carter all fantastic reporters. if i'm reading it and i'm jared, i'm feeling pretty good. it was basically everything that was in the michael wolff book, and they're going to see w...