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She was removed back in may months before her schedule. yovanovitch's tenure was cut short. yovanovitch's former colleague came to her defense. they also say it would be out of character for her to engage in partisan politics. there is another key player in all this w. fiona hill. she plan to say that rudy giuliani and eu ambassador gordon sondland circumvented the national security council to pursue a shadow policy on

End? what was the purpose of the shadow policy? we already know from the text messages we've seen that the purpose was to pressure ukraine to investigate the bidens and to investigate other aspects of the 2016 election that donald trump was interested in. that was in fact a condition of good relations with donald trump. and to do that, we bypassed the normal diplomatic processes, the normal experts, and the white house should be terrified of the testimony of fiona hill. she not only knows about the ukraine stuff, she knows a lot of things about conversations with putin, about what trump told t...

Again referring to those that involved former vice president joe biden and his son hunter. for more i'm joined by ned price and david frum, senior editor at the atlantic. thanks to both of you. ned, let me start with you. this idea of a shadow policy, a shadow foreign policy i think folks have a pretty good sense what that means just based on what they're hearing from yovanovitch's testimony today. but take us through whether it's what she's saying about rudy giuliani and what he was doing in her situation or about potentially gordon sondland, the u.s. ambassador to the eu. what role should th...

Take it seriously. exclusive to share with you on what might end up being a blockbuster week on capitol hill. house democrats scheduling 11 depositions and document deadlines over the next five days as part of their impeachment inquiry. the calendar is packed. it includes ousted state department officials, trump associates, staffers, including one of the guys we've been talking about, ambassador gordon sondland. also, look at the start of the week. if you look at monday, former nfc official fiona hill, she is the former aide to russia, and this is going to be critical. why? because hill, accor...

China. there is no foreign policy going on right now and no national security process. we are taking on increasing risk from the country from issue to issue. what happened in ukraine, there was a policy to provide assistance to the ukrainian government but there is a shadow policy coming out of the oval office to counter that. diplomats on the front line are interphasing with the government, don't know what the policy is because you don't know what the president is going to do from day-to-day. this is taking on risk for our country and national security. it is serious. there are just no defens...