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Policy ideas. i'm hearing a lot of reiterating of what the president made in the last five years. people are making their own lanes to run for president. these are the very early days of the republican shadow primary. you and i have covered freedom coalitions in places like iowa. it's usually a year or two before the nominating contest. right now it's three years before and you look at the people coming here, mike pence, rick scott, senator marco rubio. names that we're hearing a lot about because they have a role to play in potentially retaking the senate, revealing himself. especially if he ...

Of the bookings and yes, bernie sanders, because of the way our primary system is structured is going to have a lot of support among the grass roots but there's a lot of up and comers here who don't have the same name id but who are going to be out there playing in this shadow primary in 2018 like harris, so i wouldn't read too much into this poll at this early point. bernie sanders was a contender in the most recent cycle so he's got great name id but we're so early, i just wouldn't put too much stock in this poll. >> we really are, but what's going to be different in 2020 for joe biden than ...

>> yes, it will help hillary clinton. it will help the democratic party to have a competitive primary process. but let me say this, lawrence. senator elizabeth warren, no relation by the way, although maybe spiritually. she is already running. this is a shadow primary. and she has been vocal on these issues like anna pointed out. the clip you showed of hillary clinton, if you didn't show it to us and we just listened, you might have thought it was senator elizabeth warren. she has already moved to the left to respond to the populism of elizabeth warren. so in some ways, she's running. maybe sh...

Elizabeth warren runs for president. it will make her a better nominee if she's going to be the nominee. >> yes, it will help hillary clinton. it will help the democratic party to have a competitive primary process. but let me say this lawrence. senator elizabeth warren no relation by the way, although maybe spiritually. she is already running. this is a shadow primary. and she has been vocal on these issues like anna pointed out. the clip you showed of hillary clinton, if you didn't show it to us and we just listened you might have thought it was senator elizabeth warren. she has already move...

2016 hopefuls. jeb bush and scott walker are both making their first visits to the granite state this weekend. rick perry is also there with the full schedule today in the state we know he loves and which he has spent many an awesome day in the past. democrats meanwhile are waiting to see if the full house of representatives will subpoena hillary clinton's e-mail server. the contrast is leading to much speculation these days about the democrats' bench or as some have it the democrats' throne. is hillary clinton really running on a post or is she just winning the shadow primary? joining me is j...