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The court of public opinion. they're at home right now, and they are hearing from their constituents, as i am here in connecticut, that they want a full and fair trial. i think they're going to want to be avoiding the appearance of being puppets, enablers of an unfair and sham proceeding. >> do you think that murkowski could be a candidate or maybe other republican senators could be candidates to break ranks with republicans? would it be either on voting to remove the president from office or do you think it would be on the initial votes we're expecting chuck schumer to force on getting more w...

Hunter biden, joe biden, chulupa, the whole lot of them. wouldn't it be interesting if the person to be the cross examer would be rudy giuliani. wouldn't that be an interesting thing. >> that might be rudy calling you. judge jeanine: that's my alarm. >> well, listen. i talked to the president about this directly. we were in the oval office. he looked at me across the resolute desk. he said hogan, the democrats have nothing here. i have done nothing wrong. if they proceed with this sham proceeding, i want a trial in the senate. i want to call all the witnesses we didn't have a right to call on ...

Chulupa, the whole lot of them. wouldn't it be interesting if the person to be the cross examer would be rudy giuliani. wouldn't that be an interesting thing. >> that might be rudy calling you. judge jeanine: that's my alarm. >> well, listen. i talked to the president about this directly. we were in the oval office. he looked at me across the resolute desk. he said hogan, the democrats have nothing here. i have done nothing wrong. if they proceed with this sham proceeding, i want a trial in the senate. i want to call all the witnesses we didn't have a right to call on the house side. the senat...

He knows better and he shouldn't be doing this. by the way, we dropped the laws on corroboration. it used to be that rape victims never were believed. every single state has gotten rid of that. let's get past it and get to a situation where we can take a woman's word and seriously investigate it and seriously look at it. we have another potential person here, mark judge, who may be also someone who engaged in a criminal act. >> but they won't subpoena him. they won't subpoena any other witnesses for a fair hearing. >> they should be questioned first to determine what they have to say and then ...

Is a misnomer. when you talk about a hearing you talk about a search for facts. you don't talk about a sham proceeding by which judge kavanaugh comes and says i deny anything, i vehemently denied it from the beginning, it's an outrage. it's the 11th hour. and she says her piece. we have a system to find facts. with regard to what phil mudd points out with regard to witnesses, there's more than that. there's not only people who were at the party who could attest to being there, what occurred, was the judge there, 17 years old at the time, was he there? but there is outcry, to what extent did th...