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Ken vogel, and clarence page. so what do we make of this amazing, shameless claim by trump that he's cleaned up everything when he's got this fixer out there with a shingle out, i can get you access to the president. he's doing it like all the old guys -- all the people -- i'm not going to mention their names now, but i grew up in a town where people did this. the guy gets elected. they don't want to work in the white house for 100 a year. they want to stay outside and make millions. this isn't new. but trump claiming he's different. >> i'll say two things. the first thing is if we want to inc...

You're actually moderate -- >> that's robert. >> ken vogel, "new york times" political reporter, and clarence paige is "chicago tribune" columnist. so what do we make of this amazing, shameless claim by trump that he's cleaned up everything when he's got this fixer out there with a shingle out, i can get you access to the president. he's doing it like all the old guys -- i'm not going to mention their names out, a lot of them are deceased. but i grew up at a time when people did this. they helped get a guy elected, the guy gets elected, they don't want to work in the white house, they want to ...