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Know always in the resumes that they sent out it would be the same resumes they would just switch the names right the other thing that they would do is they would stress you know augment the strength of the quality of the resume right so increase the Quality Institution depth of experience length of experience so on and so forth and what they found was if you have you know. A black you know white sounding name you know your callbacks would be 50 percent higher right on the other thing that they found was you know if you were at a white sounding name as the strength and quality of their resume increased right because we want to talk to the stronger candidates because back when it by 30 percent makes total sense right but if you had a black sounding name as the strength and quality resume went up the callbacks did not go up at all statistically you know 0 no interest level you actually needed the incremental 8 years of experien ....