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Like this, this is the pollster frank lunts, they feel like they don't have to say a word. >> the american people for the first time are going to feel the full affects and congress is saying no, both contracts and republicans, it shows you how weak joe biden is. here's the problem. the democrats control the house. they control the senate, and when your own party doesn't back you up, that says a lot. >> a lot of what you hear is spin for the party. it's hard to argue with that. >> that is not great, and joe biden's approval ratings particularly in these districts where people actually have race...

President donald trump intended to remain the president of the united states. and we are seeing the way they have framed the discussion. when you were listening, though, van, and, you know, youings, very early on, were one of the people to predict donald trump's victory in -- in -- when he first ran because you were having your pulse, you know, with them on the pulse of what people were thinking even outside of the box. what do you make of their presentation and its ability to sway? >> if anyone listened to liz cheney, in particular, she did an extraordinary job. uh, of laying out just how dia...

Impacts, i mean, if you look at everything from the energy if sector to food, i mean, there is not a place in the economy that this is -- and there's no end in sight. i guess the concern is what's the plan to deal with it? because joe biden, when he first ran, was supposed to be the man with a plan, but i don't know that americans understand what the president's plan here is other than wanting to raise taxes and spend more, more money. that doesn't solve the problem, it exacerbates the problem, right? >> it does. it exacerbates the problem. we've seen this massive amount of spending that the b...

To be, corbin? >> if anybody sort of -- traditional were to pop up, it would be a wide variety of people. you have a guy that is pushing 80, right? there wasn't even certainty that he would run for a second term when he first ran. so if there's -- if we see a mid-term outcome where democrats lose the house and god forbid the senate, too, all bets are off and we'll see the democratic party trying to go in a different direction and truncate their losses. >> martha: very interesting. and kamala harris would be the obvious choice in most scenarios. she's had struggles p.r.-wise and she's had a num...

Unanswered questions here. >> reporter: et why the president is unable to separate his suspicions and theories from broader foreign policy, at least with ukraine, johnson has no problem doing just that. >> i'm not saying the president's concerns aren't legitimate, okay? do i agree? no. >> i think ron johnson sees a lot of donald trump in himself, right? they are both businessmen. >> thank you all. >> never run for office before. donald trump had never run for office before. they were in some ways both scorned by the political establishment of their party. donald trump we know about. ron johnso...