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Votes were still being counted. i don't know why the president doesn't seem to get that. this is what he said. >> mia love gave me no love. she lost. too bad. sorry about that, mia. >> were her attacks on trump and the gop true/fair? to the great debate. you are transactional, my brother. that's the problem with you when it cop comes to how you deal wi african-americans as con sti ent constituents. that's what mia love said. >> mia is a friend of mine. a tea party pack that i led when she first ran gave her money. i think she -- i was harbroeartn when she lost. but more heartbroken for the peo...

Minnesota is a tough road to hoe for democrats, but maybe pawlenty was the guy that could do it. now they'll have to do it with johnson. a lot of conventional wisdom is that could hurt their odds. the other thing is who do the democrats nominate? they nominated tim walz, a congressman for a district that went for trump by 15 points in 2016 down in the rural southern part of minnesota. so he's got some appeal to the trump, to the republican parts of the state. that could help him as well. the other big marquee governor's race, you mentioned it in the upper midwest, wisconsin. we will be talking...

Producer, andrew weiss. andrew, what do you think of this? the snickering. >> it's absurd. you don't have to like the president, but you have to respect the president and the office of the president. these were the same people that were snickering when he first ran, started doing well in the polls. it will never happen. when brexit came along. the same european leaders snickering at that. the whole nato group, it reminds me of bond villains. the president saiding you expect me to pay in no, mr. trump, i expect you to die. i was waiting for that. i'm done now. >> neil: isn't it a little extreme...

When he first ran, they started by saying he was a joke. then they realized he was getting -- they kept fueling, fueling, fueling, they never imagined he might actually win. he was out there running around america, galvanizing and resonating with the american people in middle america. way away from the two coasts. then came the moment when the american media said we've got to kill this guy off. this is out of control. dr. frankenstein, it was too late. the beast they helped create cannot be killed off and he won the presidency. what i don't like about what is going on now is there is an absolu...

This is his wheelhouse. he needs to come out and say specifically what he will do for small businesses in america and for people trying to make it by. i think you'll hear him really needle jeb bush. you'll hear attacks at carson but he'll go after jeb bush. >> mark mckinnon what your looking for? >> the way to go after trump, particularly if i was jeb would be to go with humor. just try to needle him back in a way with light and levity. >> mr. bush has to show what he promised when he first ran. he hasn't done the fun part. interesting -- >> i don't think he does. >> this is why i'm going into...