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Quietly in the wings like joe biden, maybe john kerry, party elders who would have to swooch in and take the place, assuming that martin o'malley and the other opponents just never take off. man, i think he is the, 60%, 70% favorite. >> the clock is ticking on that. just the time that which somebody could swoop in. >> yeah talking about this implosion scenario. right. her poll numbers. look numbers you pointed out in general election have to be worrying for democrats. in terms of the democratic race still she is just you know yes, bernie sanders is attracting big crowds. and he is coming up a ...

Backer of the federal dream act which is taxpayer subsidized college benefits for children of illegal aliens. those are powerful magnets and he probably has the most liberal position on illegal immigration of any of the candidates in the race. >> all right. that may be true but will it hurt him? we're back with our political panel and we start again with doug shone. doug, will this hurt newt gingrich? my personal opinion is if he implodes, it's not going to be because of this immigration. >> first, david, it shouldn't hurt him. this is just reasonable, responsible. we have to do something with...

To someone like mitt romney. >> i think there is actually a bigger factor at work here. republicans have precious few in the way of candidates they can hold on to. clinging to cain as he implodes, where else would they have to go? perry has imploded and it's an anybody but romney kind of race. there is newto mania on the rise. >> they can go to rick perry. >> don't be rick santorum. >> they both imploded themselves. there is no place for them to go. watching the video, it was comical at first, but then i found it tragic. this is the guy who wants to answer the phone at 3:00 in the morning and ...

Substance. this was a fairly deep debate. i'm not saying that because i'm promoting what we do here at msnbc, cnbc, nbc -- >> we'll take the flattery. >> i want to play a couple clips. it came up almost without too much prompting by you and maria. here's a couple clips. >> let me say i want to be the president of the 99%. i also want to be the president of the 1%. >> i have yet to hear a sing the reporter ask a single occupy wall street a single rational question about the economy that would late them to say, for example, who's going to pay for the park you're occupying if there are no busines...

He was very gracious. people asked for autographs and he gave autographs. one guy did ask him for a restaurant recommendation in boston. he said, i can't give you one. the guy pressed him a little bit. he says, you'll have to ask somebody else, i can't give you one. i think he's very tentative. he's got to be careful about what he says. so he says nothing. >> yeah. well, next time better luck. maybe you'll sit next to somebody else sometime that will be more interesting. i understand what you tried to do. you tried to do the right thing which was share your expertise. as a citizen you did the ...