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>> you want me to comment on that specifically? arthel: yes, please. >> okay. that will shift, but it will increase the price. you know, when you give someone a subsidy, it doesn't change the price from going up, it just changes who pays the price. arthel: the taxpayers pate, correct? >> the taxpayers and the people who aren't on medicare pay it. so my feeling is that's inflationary. this is really a shell game, and so much of the bill is that way. it's very deceptive. also, it doesn't reduce the deficit the first 4 years because of those subsidies. and then the subsidies are supposed to end. ...

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Has to be appropriated by congress, right? it all has to be approved. this is not a shell game for hiding money. only one sentence in the entire bill was removed from the vote on june 16th until now. that had to deal with taxable benefits for contract buyouts. it had nothing to do with $400 billion being shifted around. if you look at the bill, it is very clear that it can only be used for veterans. it's extremely clear in the bill. >> tom, what's your message to congress as the senate is expected to take this up again today? >> thanks for having me on, bri anna. the message is, this is a trul...

>> we are talking about this synoptic huge week that joe biden has partnering with joe mansion to pass in epic fail to lower prescription drug prices. to go ahead and deal with energy independence. if you want to talk about a shell game in a right wing when. >> that is a good place to stop. howie: thanks so much. an apology from "the view". the buzz peter is coming up. ♪♪ ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish] discover is accepted at 99% of places in the u.s. ["only wanna be with you" by hootie & the blowfish] with best western rewards you get rewarded when you stay on the roa...

Testify publicly because he felt he's already been cooperating with the committee, sat down for closed door interview with the committee and one of the sources says he has institutional and privilege concerns but we heard congresswoman cheney say today the committee is still working on it so we shall see. >> thank you so much, pamela, and we're joined by committee member and put that question to congressman gloria in just a few minutes, now, though, eli honig "outfront," with attorney district of new york, along with former senior political analyst, axelrod former adviser to obama, all join me...