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Of duis, driving under the influence. it could be one of those things. criminals have guns. if you want to ban guns from good people, criminals are still going to get them. they're going to smuggle them through into this country and still going to have them. you can create laws that will ban guns, bad people are still going to get them. you can create laws that are going to ban drugs. bad people still get them. so i think we have to talk about the bigger issues why are people committing these crimes i go back to the fact of mental health and substance abuse issues needs to be talked about and ...

Who protect themselves by using guns to save their families every day? >> well, you want to talk about statistics we can talk about how many people are killed because of duis, driving under the influence. it could be one of those things. criminals have guns. if you want to ban guns from good people, criminals are still going to get them. they're going to smuggle them through into this country and still going to have them. you can create laws that will ban guns, bad people are still going to get them. you can create laws that are going to ban drugs. bad people still get them. so i think we have...