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Transcripts For MSNBC Katy Tur Reports 20240707

many as 19 officers were in the school hallway. a student inside the class with the shooter calls 911, whispering on the phone. the tactical unit requested by those officers arrived. that s when the student called back and said there are kids still alive. 12:16, 911 operators know there are kids alive in the room. the shooter fires again. at one point 19 officers in the building according to dps. 20 minutes later, another 911 call begging police to get there now. 12:50, a tactical team breached the door to get inside and killed the gunman. an hour and 17 minutes from when police entered to the school to when police entered the room. why did it take so long to get inside that classroom where children were waiting for safety? it was a 40-minute gap. if the 911 operators were aware that children were alive in that classroom, why weren t officers notified of that. and if that s the case, why didn t anybody take action. that s the question. again, i ll go back to the answer for

Transcripts For MSNBC Hallie Jackson Reports 20240707

the wrong decision. not my words but the description from the director of public safety. he said the officers responding made a serious mistake and not immediately going into the classroom where a gunman killed 19 kids and two teachers tuesday. this is coming after extraordinary briefing that provided more clarity about the time line but raised a lot more questions, many more questions. we learned teacher propped open the door. the killer would later enter. the school safety officer responded to the scene and drove right past it as the gunman hid in the school parking lot. they said this was a barricade subject situation and somehow didn t think children were at risk. made that assessment. we learned two students called 911 basically begging for help. they both survived. why did that teacher prop the door open? why wasn t an armed safety officer on school grounds. why didn t the responding officer, there were 19 of them in the school at one point jump into active shooter trai

Transcripts for MSNBC Hallie Jackson Reports 20240604 19:05:00

yeah, it absolutely does. we did ask the director of texas department of public safety why they waited so long. he said the decision was made by the commander on site, not a dps officer, i should add to transition many from an active shooter to a barricaded shooter situation. i think the biggest question of all that we may never know the answer to is how many more lives would have been saved had they immediately breached that door when according to the dps director, they had about 1 officers inside this school behind me by 12:03 p.m. on tuesday afternoon. regarding another time gap, hear my question to the director a short time ago. take a listen. you wanted the wait for tactical gear, by 12:15, you had 15 officers and shields on scene

Transcripts for CNN Inside Politics With John King 20240604 16:22:00

you can. when there s an active shooter, the rules changed. it s no longer a barricaded subject. you don t worry about outer perimeters. and by the way, texas embraces active shooter trachbing, certification, and that doctrine requires officers we don t care what agency you re from. you don t have to have a leader on the scene. every officer lines up, stacks up, goes and finds where the rounds are being fired and keeps shooting until the subject is dead, period. reporter: what was the commander, sir? who was it? reporter: obviously south of the border, it s difficult to understand how the most powerful nation in the world the citizens have high end weapons and this happens over and over and over again and now again with children. [ inaudible ]

Transcripts for CNN Inside Politics With John King 20240604 16:05:00

i ll point out the crashed vehicle is over here. the suspect was hiding behind the vehicle and walked in and starting shooting into the classroom. there s discussion early on that in the isd consolidated isd for uvalde had an officer was a resource officer and had confronted the subject. that did not happen. as they talked about yesterday. it was stated in preliminary interviews, but often in the preliminary interviews and the walk through doesn t reveal the type of information and certainly police officers like anyone else under stress sometimes witnesses get it wrong. the bottom line is that officer was not on scene, not on campus but heard the 9-1-1 call with a man with a gun, drove immediately to the area, sped to what he thought was the man with

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