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Time since he left office on k street yet he's very inaccessible, doesn't want to be in the public spotlight at all. not that tipped me off to anything, but now looking in hindsight, how long has this been going on? >> what is this? >> we don't know yet. >> tbd. >> k street means lobbying, working if nor client who comes in the door, you have to shingle up, sell influence. that's what it is. >> i was more surprised because he was the noncontroversial. he replaced newt gingrich, who was very controversial. top delay was in congress as hastert's number two. >> he was safe. >> thom delay was know...

Violated our tax laws and have been indicted on serious charges. heidi. doesn't make people happier about government. >> what illinois politician now hasn't been indicted? this is part of a broader narrative in that sense too. >> five governors out of seven. >> also shocking just in the sense of anybody who ever covered denny has tertdterthastert, who knew him, seen as a good old boy, wrestling coach, that health get wrapped up in this. i have to say i found it interesting he's been the entire time since he left office on k street yet he's very inaccessible, doesn't want to be in the public sp...