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Time since he left office on k street yet he's very inaccessible, doesn't want to be in the public spotlight at all. not that tipped me off to anything, but now looking in hindsight, how long has this been going on? >> what is this? >> we don't know yet. >> tbd. >> k street means lobbying, working if nor client who comes in the door, you have to shingle up, sell influence. that's what it is. >> i was more surprised because he was the noncontroversial. he replaced newt gingrich, who was very controversial. top delay was in congress as hastert's number two. >> he was safe. >> thom delay was know...

Top delay was in congress as hastert's number two. >> he was safe. >> thom delay was known as the person who -- considered the one who did the bad stuff, hastert was the nice man who took care of things, tom delay led the house. i'm kind of shocked more than anything. >> the country thinks you come to washington to get corrupted. get into the habit, people are getting into being lobbyists and people work on the hill that staffers get into. what can you get away with? take the pens and pencils home with me phone line person business, and the next level, i'll do this. one thing that's interest...

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