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Sort of clear the slate. and he said he just wanted me to be out there to be a bigger voice than ever defending the principles that i believe in. >> rick, is that what these pardons are also meant to serve as? to use these people as another vehicle for his political agenda? >> no. dinesh d 'souza has been a powerful and eloquent voice for the conservative movement. he's a first-generation immigrant. he's spoken to the beliefs that many of us conservatives have. but this pardon, it doesn't really settle much, because he's essentially paid his fine. but it's a perversion of justice. and dines sh...

To correct an injustice. so you can make a case individually for say, governor blagojevich, former governor of illinois that his sentence was far out of proportion perhaps with what he did. but taken on the whole. you look at dines shmpb d 'souza. and rod blagojevich, convicted of selling corruption to the governor's office and you look at martha stewart. blagojevich and martha stewart were both celebrities, both on "the apprentice." james comey convicted martha stewart because she had lied. dinesh d 'souza was convicted, he apologized and said he deeply regretted what he had done. so for him ...