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>> yeah. >> the show will be american made as well? >> right. 'cause we can do the show the way we want. instead of focusing on the products and how they're made, i want to focus in on the people because they're my heros. we celebrate sports stars and actors as heros, but i want to celebrate the people who actually make the baseball, that make the bat. >> do you think it's a dying form? >> yeah, it is. the average age of people who know how to make things in this country is 58 years old. after they're retired, when you think of the machinists, the people that take care of our turbines that sup...

Shows of its time, you are extraordinary on the show, but let's stay focused on most, okay? i just wanted to get that out there. >> a little segue. >> black unemployment double the national average. a lot of black people go to apply for a job and, you know, it's like they're treated as if they have a felony. they get called back as often as a white person with a felony. so we have specific problems related with our community in finding work in general, also in this field. how are you doing placing black people in jobs? do you have special challenges in getting that sort of outreach? >> you qua...