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That we're going to try really hard to define. now the choice is you may not like afghanistan or renewable energy or solyndra or health insurance coverage for contraception or something, fine. do you like medicare? now it is a choice. it is no longer just a referendum on obama and that's everything they wanted. >> bill bennett, how do you see it? >> well, i see paul ryan as a serious man for serious times. and here's what i think. it is a clear choice. there will be a serious debate. people will pause and think about the debate, think about the argument, and take paul ryan's argument seriously...

Like afghanistan or renewable energy or solyndra or health insurance coverage for contraception or something, fine. do you like medicare? now it is a choice. it is no longer just a referendum on obama, and that's everything they wanted. >> bill bennett, how do you see it? >> well, i see paul ryan as a serious man for serious times. and here's what i think. it is a clear choice. there will be a serious debate. if people will pause and think about the debate, think about the arguments, and take paul ryan's argument seriously that he will make and lead on, and he's got a winning way. this is one ...

Serious man for serious times. and here's what i think. it is a clear choice. there will be a serious debate. people will pause and think about the debate, think about the argument, and take paul ryan's argument seriously, that he will make and lead on, and he's got a winning way. this is one of the reasons he was picked. this guy has a way of presenting things that makes people listen. he's got that jack kemp style and wins over a lot of people. they pause and reflect him on it, and see the problems that they have, his solution, i think we have a very good chance of winning. if we stay at the...