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Many many times before for the special counsel's office. >> what about rudy giuliani? i mean, he again all over the air waves this weekend. again, very clear that he does not want the president to sit down for an interview with mueller. especially after something he said yesterday about the truth. >> right, he's really been on a roll as you know in his interviews with the media and the latest quote has been compared to something you might have taken away from george orwell's book, 1984, all of this in an attempt to explain why he has concerns about the president sitting down with the special c...

It. for not keeping up the guard of his country. it's not obama's fault. it's the people who work for him. >> martha: the president said clearly back then that he wasn't worried that there would be any impact from anything like that on united states elections he called them full proof. you have a lot of critics jumping all over you for what you said yesterday morning on meet the press. here is a little reminder. >> and when you tell me that you know, he should testify because is he going to tell the truth and shouldn't worry, that's so silly because if somebody's version of the truth, not the ...

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When you tell me he should testify because he is going to tell the truth and shouldn't worry, that's so silly. it's somebody's version of the truth, not the truth. it isn't truth. truth isn't truth. trump says i didn't tell him and the other guy says he did say it, which is the truth? >> we're joined by john mccormack. he is getting jumped on. what do you think he really meant? >> some people think he has not served the president's best interest. truth isn't truth will go up there with alternative facts, some other phrases from this administration. he was trying to say even if someone goes int...

Russian government. i don't even know if they knew she was russian at the time. >> here is the thing. those claims are blatantly false given the e-mails donald trump jr. posted more than a year ago in which he was told the woman offering dirt on hillary clinton was the crown prosecutor of rush you ya', the russian attorney, the russian government attorney. guilliani grappled with the risk of letting president trump be interviewed by special counsel robert mueller. >> i'm not going to be rushed into having him testify so he gets trapped into perjury. when you tell me that, you know, he should t...