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They get on the bus and come back down to south korea knowing they are unlikely to see their loved ones again. dave. >> brief, but emotional. paula live for us this morning. thank you. 26 minutes past the hour on monday morning. don mcgahn left the president's legal team in the dark after his meetings with the special counsel. now the defense team is depl deploying another alternative fact. >> it is somebody's version of the truth. not the truth. he did not have a conversation about -- >> truth is truth. >> it isn't truth. truth isn't truth. i'm beating this. my main focus was to find a team...

When you tell me he should testify because he is going to tell the truth and shouldn't worry, that's so silly. it's somebody's version of the truth, not the truth. it isn't truth. truth isn't truth. trump says i didn't tell him and the other guy says he did say it, which is the truth? >> we're joined by john mccormack. he is getting jumped on. what do you think he really meant? >> some people think he has not served the president's best interest. truth isn't truth will go up there with alternative facts, some other phrases from this administration. he was trying to say even if someone goes int...

Obstruct. but i think that in this case -- from my point of view, actually we the public should be -- give credit to president trump for allowing the general counsel, his legal counsel to go and talk to mueller. after all, our interest is not in having a full story. and then letting the chips fall where they may. and so for the president to do that, you know, i thought it showed certain confidence. i thought it was in the best interest of the country. and he's also not claimed executive privilege for over three dozen witnesses. they sent a million documents to the special counsel. the cooperat...

. we're live in the cnn news room. from the same white house that brought you alternative facts comes a new line, the truth isn't the truth. that's why the president won't testify. >> truth is truth. >> it isn't truth. truth isn't truth. the president of the united states says i didn't -- >> truth isn't truth. mr. mayor, do you realize -- >> don't do this to me. >> the president's attorney rudy giuliani clearly in damage control mode today because this isn't the only head spinning claim he is making. ryan nobles, what else is giuliani saying? >> reporter: it was in the same interview with ch...

During the waterga scandal. today dean is speaking out giving trump a history lesson himself. let's bring in ryan noble who's has been in new jersey traveling with the president this week. what makes dean's response so interesting is that it basically is a warning that president shouldn't presume he knows what mcgahn really told mueller. >> he put it very well. >> in just the last couple hours, the legal team doesn't have a full handle on what don mcgahn may have said to the special counsel over the extensive amount of interviews that took place more than 30 hours over three different occasion...