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hi, everyone, we made it to friday. it's 4:00 in new york. the very first person to earn the dubious of being first -- of the republican party is at this very moment playing a game of chicken with the rule of law with practically every prominent member of the gop either silenced or acting at his henchman, the ex-president is talking like a mob boss, amping up his threats of retaliation against his perceived political opponents and enemies in the wake of his conviction on 34 felony counts for concealing a scheme to interfere in the 2016 presidential election. over the course of a sing...

His show accountable. there was no accountability of donald trump of his alleged infidelities. there was none of that. instead he held imup as a martyr of the political system and felt he has been unfairly targeted. even introduced guests and said, because of you, dr. phil, i now see donald trump in a different light, getting him to hear how he's been victimized. that is the type of platform dr. phil has created -- that's why i use more of a conversation with donald trump instead of one that he was using as an accountability measure. >> rev, jump in on this. the other word for this is the mess...

Politicized. i don't think that's going to go anymore. i think that's the new normal for this show, which may or may not be a good thing over the long term. we'll find out when we see the ratings in january. i think we have to separate what phil robertson said to "gq" from the show itself, because a lot of people can watch it and not agree with what he said to "gq." what we'll find out next year when the ratings come in is whether viewers hold the show accountable for the way phil robertson says, or not. because sometimes, in cases, let's say, paula deen, for example, the food network yanked p...