Else. is this man above the law or not, or are we all subject to the rule of law? that's what's fundamentally at stake right now. >> as the house pursues impeachment, is there a way to do that in a way that is maximally bolstering of the rule of law in a long-standing way? >> i think there is. i think it's important to enunciate what the principles of what we're doing are all the time. i realize for political reasons it makes sense to focus on this ukraine issue because basically the president confessed to it. >> caught and then admitted it and then proved that he did it. >> yeah. if you confe...