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Threats privately and publicly against me for quite some time, loved and i think they should understand by now the department of justice is not going to be extorted. >> so, julia, not a shrinking violet. do you think, like a good police officer, he had backup prior to making that pronouncement, or does he have, as lawyers say, reason to believe that there are people with his back at doj down the road? >> well, i mean i think he hit it on the head. he's been threatened publicly and privately. i've spoken to people close to rosenstein. obviously we know the public threats. it's come from the twe...

Presidents. he's been u.s. attorney in one of the tougher postings in this country up in baltimore, and he was talking about the attacks on him. he was asked about this possible case of impeachment. here's his answer. >> i can tell you there have been people who have been making threats privately and publicly against me for quite some time, and i think they should understand by now the department of justice is not going to be extorted. >> so, julia, not a shrinking violet. do you think, like a good police officer, he had backup prior to making that pronouncement, or does he have, as lawyers sa...

Year. >> she put your feet to the fire. make sure you get the job done and move on. >> she was no pushover. >> no pushover. >> she stood the up for herselves. >> right. >> inside of the walls of the nice home ellen's rank was near the bottom. >> he became condescending, controlling where i could go, who i could see. >> at home, mike made the rules and ellen obeyed them. you had a significant executive job at a big company. >> yes. >> so you are not some little shrinking violet whose home cowering under her husband's direction. >> when it came to being home and opening that door i was that shri...

To be leaker. joining me now, editor in chief of "the hill" bob kusack. you have some strong thoughts about this, too. what are they? >> i think john bolton deserves his own team. if they're mcmaster holdouts or obama holdouts, they have to go. in all likelihood the leakers are probably from people who don't agree with the president. we saw that recently with the call to putin. that upset the president. understandably. now, bolton is no shrinking violet. at the same time, how is he going to work with chief of staff kelly? jim mattis reportedly concerned about working with bolton. he's dealing ...

Insider trading case, which your office won. tell us more about dowd and his approach to the law. >> well, i think people have observed over the course of the representation of donald trump he's not a shrinking violet or mild-mannered guy, a fighter, pugnacious publicly, pugnacious in the court. he's been favored by climaents with strong personalities and fighters themselves, he was john mccain's lawyer, hedge fund guy's lawyer, most recently the president's lawyer. he likes to shoot a little bit from the hip, i will say, in court proceedings and proceedings leading up to trial, and he has a b...