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And it is true if we get a typically weak first quarter and have an extended shutdown we could end up with a number that is low. >> would we get zero growth. >> but when the government reopens we get that back. >> could we get zero growth? i want to nail this down. >> we could, yes. if it extended for whole quarter and given the fact that the first quarter tends to be low because of residual season alty you could end up with a number close to zero but the second quarter would be hue mnangagmon the government reopens. >> do you think, kevin -- it sounded like last week you were saying the white...

Like yourself say the shutdown is necessary for the security of the country. but you're seeing the effects of the shutdown here. you have fbi agents saying investigations are being put on hold. you have tsa agents calling in sick because they can't pay their expenses, they're holding down two jobs. you have air traffic controllers holding down two jobs just to pay the bills. you have to coast guard going out to sea with their sailors unpaid. in your view is it worth damaging security in other areas, a number of areas, to hold out for money for the border wall? >> that's the question you might ...

Calling their plight -- and you might understand this -- unacceptable. >> you as members of the armed forces should not be expected to should they are burden. i find it unacceptable that coast guard men and women have to rely on food pantries and donations to get through day to day life as service members. >> the shutdown taking a serious toll on the fbi. the fbi agents association warns crime fighting operations for both are suffering for a lack of funds. cnn obtained an e-mail to move from less busy airport to move to the under strain ones from tsa sickouts. some screeners are calling out in...

Somewhere there and the speaker of the house in michigan to deliver the speech in the michigan capital. now, we're told from the speaker of the house in michigan that the president turned down that invitation, not clear white what might happen in north carolina. a reminder there. the republican national convention is expected to be held in north carolina in 2020. kaitlan collins reported some of the president's supporters suggest head go down to the southern border and give the speech there because that is the big issue that created the shutdown. back to you. >> joe johns, thanks very much. ...

About the impact the shutdown is having on safety. scott, what can you tell us? >> the good news for federal workers is all of them will get paid as soon as the shutdown is over the. the problem is they have bills to pay now. for those deemed essential, they're in a tougher spot because many don't have the option to take on another job because they have to show up for work. we're talking about people like tsa agents or air traffic controllers. we met one controller this week who directs pilots for a live bug she's having a tougher time directing politicians to tend shutdo shutdown. at the cent...