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Things. where would you put the chances of a recession in 2020? >> very, very close to zero. usually the unconditional -- you told me 10 years from now, pick a random year, what are the odds of recession you would say 18%. >> but 82% of cfo us surveyed b duke said there will be a recession, are they wrong? >> yes. there's a lot of momentum. the shutdown adds uncertainty. you're seeing that in some pieces of data, i don't know if you looked at consumer sentiment but it dropped a lot. >> i did. it was horrible. >> but our view unchanged from last year that we'll have 3% growth and it's because w...

Union to washington this week. >> my name is jenny benjamin. >> reporter: she warned public safety is at risk and some controllers look to take on second jobs. >> we need to be perfect at this job. and we don't want people taking extra jobs because they're not coming to work rested now. she met with staff of both colorado senators who urged the president to reopen government. they don't agree on border security, but benjamin doesn't care, she just wants to be paid. >> we don't care how it happens. we want the shutdown to end as soon as possible. it needs to be today. if you're wondering, j...

For his border wall. this as the shutdown is taking a greater toll on the economy. with us now, the chairman of the white house council of economic advisers kevin hassett. good morning, kevin. >> good morning. >> what is this shutdown going to cost our economy? >> well, of course it looks like folks will miss a check and there's a lot of enormous focused personal cost. it's something over at the white house everybody isn't being paid. the people on my staff aren't being paid and so i think a lot of the cost that we're feeling is going to be on the individual level. on the macroeconomic level, ...

The metaphor of the wall has become a manacle for him, shackled him into negotiations. the question is can he change that definition. >> can i ask you a question because you're a strategist, we're coming up on a month, whose shoes would you rather be in, the democrats or the president's? >> oh, man. oh, democrats' shoes are looking really good right now. the public blames the president for this and really doesn't blame republicans. the vast majority blame the president and ironically the president said he wanted to own the shutdown. now he owns it and in a weird trumpian way i think he wanted ...

Effecting criminal casesed as quote perpetrators remain at large. and furloughed workers with jobs are lining up for food doneiations. and the president delivered pizzas to the secret service detail. even the people who protect the president and former presidents are going without pay. it's time for leaders on both sides to put politics aside and work together and end this shutdown. >> this is a shutdown that's the longest in history. it's the dumbest in history. and it may well be the most damaging in history. >> and as the shutdown is getting closer to grinding into its 29th day, the preside...