story on ballot drop boxes. the former president called him last week trying to overturn his 2020 defeat. last week as the speaker put it, i explained, it s not allowed under the constitution, adding, quote, he has a different opinion. in other words, trump may be sweating and stewing in mar-a-lago, but he is still at it. there were other warning signs today as well. rusty bowers, remember him, lifelong republican who refused to buckle to pressure from the former president and testified emotionally before the select committee. well, we learned he was just censured by the state party which declared him no longer a republican in good standing. in maryland they chose dan cox to be their republican nominee for governor. he once called on the former president to seize voting machines. he also sponsored buses to take people to the so-called stop the steal rally on january 6th and that afternoon he tweeted, mike pence is a traitor. so there s that. there s also this we got today hav
pence is a traitor. so there s that. there s also this we got today having to do with the former white house aide garrett ziegler. he escorted michael flynn and sid sidney powell into the white house. ziegler met with the select committee earlier and said this afterwards about the members on telegram. they re bolshevik. most white people in general. this is a bolshevikist white campaign. if you can t see that, your eyes are friggen closed. they see me as a white christian they can basically scare. that guy was an aide to the president. this went on for 20 minutes. ziegler used vulgar and misogynistic language. as for the missing secret
tonight. it s a really pleasure to have you here. thanks for having me. let me ask first if you think i m asking the right question and if i ve sort of framed this appropriately in terms of various people involved and what kind of moment this is in the qanon world. sure. i mean, that s a moment of real tumult right now. lin wood, who s a real qanon star turn on people like sidney powell and michael flynn, most importantly, so this is really kind of a crux. lin wood has a lot of i don t know if you want to call them minions, associates who are lesserites of qanon and they re turning on michael flynn because of this audio. he gave a weird prayer that they claim proves he s a satanist. there s a big civil war in qanon, and i think this is a big issue a loft qanoners are going
sid sidney powell, some of the other people that have had so much attention in the world, i have been surprised to see some schismatic forces throw them off. is support for trump a constant, or is that also at play as the movement gets to this crux moment as you describe it? sure. well, so far they re all in on trump. they love trump. trump has sort of won that loyalty not just by doing things that qanon believers like policywise, but by never denouncing qanon. they saw during the presidential campaign when he said, well, these people think we re going after pedophiles. maybe we are. what would be wrong with that? and by doing this dance, praising people like michael flynn who always winked at qanon. they re on board. until he comes out and disavows them they re going believe in him. people outside qanon think, we can cause them to defect by