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released audio of an interview of donald trump by jonathan carl. it shows the ex-president knew full well the power he had over the mob that stormed the capitol. just take a listen. >> but if you look a the real size of that crowd, i was never reported correctly. there were the biggest crowd i've ever spoken in front of by far, really, by far, that went down to the washington -- that went back to the washington mo. >> you told them you were going to g up to the capitol. were you just -- >> i was going to a the secret service said you can't. and by the time i would have and wanted to ...

prime time tonight. stand facing me, please. that is why you know that i also have very bad sociale anxiety. >> you and me both don't resist .g a wh >> don't you be a white man, then. ohit don't., woke, gets a dui. oh, wow. capital takeover. ng up th i know folks say, oh, they're just cleaning up this place becaus place be all thosey leaders are coming into town. that's true. because it's true. finally makes his bed. >> plufis, we've all made mistakes, especially me. >> if you want forgiveness, you need to be honest and takebi responsibility for what you've done. >> growingty fve up....

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Mueller contradicting the trump barr claims, the reigniting of the impeachment debate, two mueller aides debating his approach. Ill be anchoring it at 9 00 p. M. Eastern on sunday night. I hope youll consider joining us. Dont go anywhere right now, because hardball is up next. Good evening, im Chris Matthews in washington with that horrific breaking news now out of Virginia Beach. Theres been a Mass Shooting at the Municipal Center there. 11 people are dead. According to police, the suspect, a current city employee, was also killed. Police say they believe the suspect acted alone. Were going t...

Of the firing that preceded it so is pretty overwhelming, it sounds like automatic but it's a semi automatic weapon and of course the capability of these things to reload and their ability to carry large-scale magazines gives single person the capability doing a lot of damage so therefore, obviously the only medication is another armed person like law enforcement officer. jon: there again, i had to get all kinds of credit to the officer who, just guessing, was carrying only side arm, a pistol and took on a guy with a semi automatic rifle. >> train prevails and a winning attitude and training c...