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Agree with you, they want the investigation to continue. this is a side issue. because people are saying that the democrats are now using this. the democratings are using this against you and are making a big deal out of this. and you're a powerful man and you're one of the only people pushing on the investigation. so now some of the republicans are mad at you because they feel you distracted what is a legitimate issue, and now becomes does darrell issa want to shut down the debate? does he want to shut out the minority voice? is that what the republicans want to do, shut down the minority voi...

There is some presumption there were text messages that went back and forth between the two of them. if they were arguing certainly there would be evidence on those text messages. you better believe they will have apple people to talk about what the texts says or why they're missing. jon: it is kind of a side issue, ashley, they don't need the phone to do that though. can't they get those through the phone company? >> they could definitely get them through the phone company. they could get them through her phone or either of the phone servers. all that is goes into a database accessible for wh...

More far reaching because they deal with the ability of the federal government to provide subjects does -- to provide subsidies. they face an up i will battle in the language they decided to put in the law in the first place. that could have a broader impact on obamacare. it could pull the guts out of the middle of obamacare. this is a side issue that wouldn't have that effect. bill: the hobby lobby case we'll probably get a ruling in june. do any of these challenges on contraception, do they have the potential to derail obamacare? >> i think they have a potential to make it much more difficul...

Getting out of afghanistan. >> there is an afghanistan and iraq syndrome that is very real in american politics that we will look back as seeing something like post-vietnam syndrome. >> let's shift gears because i want to talk about what's happening coming into the new year with where the president, where the white house would like to lead. we saw the story in the "new york times" about the minimum wage. we heard the president talk about this in his speech on income inequality. is that really a message that democrats feel, that they believe can carry them into the midterm elections? it seems l...

>> but we used to mock people for bringing korean food to lunch. you know, who wrote that piece talked about growing up going to school and having kids pick on him for bringing stinky, smelly foreign food. now in a way hipsters are lined up around the block for the same food. >> that's a test to authenticity. always remain authentic. shouldn't worry whether someone calls you not american enough or not korean enough or not black enough. >> you raised, i believe, a side issue of the paula deen thing. i don't want to get on paula deen. >> right. >> let me rephrase that. is ownership of food, here...