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Do. this is really a debate about whether some groups are good and others are evil. is there any resolving a debate like that? >> >> no. i think one side wins and one side loses. we are in a age of relates there is a big truth and predicated on your race and gender and class. and then there is little things like facts, testimony, actual events and impeerism and that doesn't matter. in that divide these students had nothing going for them. they were white. they were male. they were catholic. they were at pro-life demonstration. they had hats on and mr. phillips had everything going for him. it ...

Do. this is really a debateid about whether some groups are good and others are evil. is there any resolving a debate like that? >> no. i think one side wins and one side loses. we are in a age of relates there is a big truth and predicated on your race and gender and class. and then there is littleth things like facts, testimony, actual events and impeerism and that doesn't matter. in that divide these students had nothing going for them.er they were white. they were male. they were catholic.. they were at pro-life demonstration.mo they had hats on and mr. phillips had everything going for hi...

All of that going on. so they say, oh, pizzagate is real. that stuff's real. maybe barack obama wasn't a legitimate president because he was born in kenya. they claim the seth rich conspiracy theory, he was murdered by hillary clinton, this dnc staffer. so it combines all this stuff that's been bubbling up for a listening time now and offers this explanation of trump versus this global cabal. >> but a lot of those we hear that are not supportive of the president, the person in power, these seem to be backers of the current president. >> sure, so this is the interesting thing about qanon, is th...

Like our side wins and your side loses, and this is how we arrange our lives over the next two to four years. >> this is different. >> now you have somebody that basically -- >> that was a really good read on him. >> donald trump beat both parties, he beat the democrats and before he did that he had to beat the republican party and establishment and he did that. now if you are on capitol hill, how do you organize around that fact, this guy, basically, the republican party is the party of trump. >> i think we have not talked about this enough, but we are as close as we have been to outside a tw...

Because gridlock isn't the rule there. gridlock can never be the rule there. court has nine seats. odd number. every time they vote, one side wins and one side loses. what the court says goes. the exhort is the final arbiter. who is allowed under our constitution and what isn't. this is a conservative group. four of the justices clearly on the right and another one, anthony kennedy, isn't quite as conservative but still pretty conservative. this conservative court is the exception to the rule. not much that comes out of congress for president obama to sign these days but there is a lot that co...