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Him, hey, am i facing any potential criminal liability here because i knew at the time that cambridge analytica did have these e-mails and did give them to wikileaks, what should i do, and to that the reporter paul wood allegedly says he replied, well, you should take this information to bob mueller. >> and that's a great point. i'd forgotten. the alexander nix part of that, kret of cambridge analytica reaching out to julian assange and saying can we help you with this, that's confirmed. that is a thing we know. that is an established fact. so you're saying if this were to bear out it would ma...

The alexander nix part of that, kret of cambridge analytica reaching out to julian assange and saying can we help you with this, that's confirmed. that is a thing we know. that is an established fact. so you're saying if this were to bear out it would make some sense of that aspect of it. so that's one part of this, right? we keep looking for the sort of nexus, roger stone, cambridge analytica, wikileaks. there's also been a crazy eric prince-related side plot to this. and i'm curious about this piece of news today which just, again, keeps showing how wide a net and how many documents and thin...

They are in the middle of this mess. and jared kushner especially, i mean, he is -- recall that he forgot or did not list that meeting with the head of a mobbed up russian bank that's under u.s. sanctions. he has been trying to secure in various corners of the world -- or his company has been trying to secure huge loans to keep the real estate empire afloat. it's as if it's all perhaps beginning to crash in on him and on this couple that is so -- so graceful, so polite. so magazine cover friendly. it's quite something. and it's just an interesting and fascinating sort of side plot to

But they don't stand up to the unknown of the e-mail. why? >> in some respects just because that's the stage of the race that we're in. right. that the level of attention and frenzy around this campaign is such. and the e-mails have been such a constant drum beat for clinton's campaign that it's not some sort of side plot that people need to familiarize themselves with. they know as soon as you say e-mail sort of broadly at least what you're referring to. look, i do think one of the reasons why the impact of this comey letter may be somewhat smaller than you might imagine is because of all the...