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We now know the pentagon had a program, too.t i think it will take congressional hearings to get to the bottom of all this. not just in the united states but all around the world. i'd like to see the congressional hearings. tl >> tucker: commercial pilots have very often reported sighting objects in the air that seem to defy the laws of physics. to what extend are these objects a threat to commercial aviation potentially? >> certainly, the british ministry of defense and our civil aviation authority, the u.k. equivalent of your f.a.a. have dozens of cases in our files about near-misses. some o...

>> well, no, we keep an open mind, as i say. some of these things probably are russian or chinese. whoever it is. but that is the point. we must find out. if there is something in our air space, we need to know. for years, governments said they didn't do it. they did. i worked for the british government. i can only talk about it now because my old employers are decreasing information and declassifying information about my old job. the pentagon had a program, too. i think it will take congressional hearings to get to the bottom of all this. not just in the united states but all around the world...

Too. i think it will take congressional hearings to get to the bottom of all this. not just in the united states but all around the world. i'd like to see the congressional hearings. >> tucker: commercial pilots have very often reported sighting objects in the air that seem to defy the laws of physics. to what extend are these objects a threat to commercial aviation potentially? >> certainly, the british ministry of defense and our civil aviation authority, the u.k. equivalent of your f.a.a. have dozens of cases in our files about near-misses. some of which where pilots had to take evasive act...