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Voting no out of the house. >> right. this -- i mean, this is what happens in every tax fight. it is incredibly complicated. there are -- for everything that you do that makes one group of people a winner, it makes another group of people a loser. part of the reason that you had that fight i rupt or that you can have that find of fight erupt is because everybody has ammunition. there are ways that you can -- that the republicans can just -- the point to, you know, parts of the bill that do certain things for members of the middle class. there's ways that brown can point to things that are sole...

Foolish company head would bring the money back in. i think the numbers could even hit the $4 trillion mark. people have been saying 2.5 trillion for many years, but we know now it's much higher than that. the vast majority of americans will be able to file their taxes on a single sheet of paper. because not only will these be massive tax cuts, but these will be a big simplification. it's going to be a very big simplificati simplification. it's really tax cuts and reform but i focus on tax cuts because it's such an important weapon to really get our country moving. so we'll go from being one o...

The fact that it'sing had, so the sole reason for this genre's existence is to provide the liberal elite with the means to sound superior without sounding look jason chaffetz. >> i think it's an over simplificati simplification. there are a lot of white working class people who voted for trump. the poorest people voted for clinton. i was talking about one section of the electorate. there are a group that are just as loyal to him and maybe they can be reached. >> and do you see any signs that the democratic national committee has funt will changed any of their thinking other than just trying to...

>> does something like that, banning big gulps, or that's a simplificati simplification, does his involvement hurt the cause? >> i think the gun rights side has come up with a good talking point against mayor bloomberg but i would say this. the gun safety side does not do a good job politically as the gun rights side, and it has happened for decades. unless we learn these lessons, we're going to have more defeats than victories and we need those victories. >> why doesn't the gun rights side do as well? why does the gun rights side, why are they so much stronger than the gun control side or the...

Than a year ago, told the administration. do you think the white house dropped the ball here or is that not fair? >> i'm not a big fan of the obama administration, but i was -- i think this is a great simplificati simplification of it. but i was marginally involved in the discussions during the presidency of george w. bush about egypt. because they wanted to push egypt toward reform and nudge hosni mubarak toward reform. they were very concerned about the ways of hosni mubarak. and in the end, they pulled back from it. so i think there's plenty of blame to go around. this is a man who has been...