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Briefly when she did endorsement. she said i am not painting a picture, north carolina is without racism. wanted to speak to the other thing that are going on in the race. still standing up for who she wanted to. >> they were friend. very good friends. >> joy, thank you for being here. catch joy on "the reid report." next, new developments in the national security debate. the white house backing legislation that could change how the nsa tracks your phone. we have new footage from the nbc exclusive interview with edward snowden from an undisclosed location in rush yeah. no matter what you think...

Hillary was friendship and advocacy of her gender. >> right. she also used it at a time. briefly when she did endorsement. she said i am not painting a picture, north carolina is without racism. wanted to speak to the other thing that are going on in the race. still standing up for who she wanted to. >> they were friend. very good friends. >> joy, thank you for being here. catch joy on "the reid report." next, new developments in the national security debate. the white house backing legislation that could change how the nsa tracks your phone. we have new footage from the nbc exclusive intervie...

There are all sorts of treaties. >> yeah, running out of time. john, one point would be the, john, let me go ahead. your final word. the white house would say the nsa was doing things they weren't informed about. mentioned that in the lead of the script. they're doing, foreign dignitary surveillance which apparently the nsa decided to do the white house said it didn't know that would be a lie, right, go ahead, your final thoughts? >> yeah, look, bottom line, the president is a very busy man. they're not briefed on every sing nsa does or cia or fbi it is a lot of things. the white house does no...

Members of the secret court that oversees government surveillance. speaking out about the need for reform. members of the intelligence committee. speaking out for the need for reform. there is a bill in congress that would -- begin to -- to reform some of these surveillance policies. i think it is a really beg deal. none would have happened but for the disclosures. >> john, on the plus size if you buy that, you have some reform in congress. it is not often that sensenbrenner, who wrote the patriot act trying to find a solution here with president obama. on the con side you have the nsa argumen...

-- snowden documents. the way the government has been addressing the issue. huge shift in public opinion. members of the secret court that oversees government surveillance. speaking out about the need for refo reform. members of the intelligence committee. speaking out for the need for reform. there is a bill in congress that would -- begin to -- to reform some of these surveillance policies. i think it is a really beg deal. none would have happened but for the disclosures. >> john, on the plus size if you buy that, you have some reform in congress. it is not often that sensenbrenner, who wrot...