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Than that than what the democrats are doing, if they can get it they'll take it and go with it as long as they can. paul: governor of vermont, former governor of vermont, joe, ran on this in 2012 or 2014, said, i'm going to impose sing-payer in the people's republic of vermont, he failed because there was too much cost, he had to raise taxes so much and people would have fled the state? >> enormous increase in the tax burden which would apply to a rich state like california, the importance of these state-base movements is the states, the governors eventually find they just can't afford it but ...

Folk. that battle has been lost. >> that wasn't really ever the question. >> it was a question. >> to the republicans it was. >> no. i think part of the other issue is that the health care system has been transformed. and so what republicans are going to need to do in 2016 is go back to the insurance companies, back to the doctors and say, hey, we're going to go through this again and you are not going to see the level of industry support. they just went through this four years ago. they have changed. they have transformed that. they've worked on what their premiums are going to be. and i just...