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Profits and they pay their ceos millions of dollars. so god bless them if they want to compete. i don't think they will. and that's how you ultimately get more people to choose medicare. and once you get a good amount of buy-in, your step to universal coverage, single-payer is very short. ultimately you want to make it an earned benefit like you have with social security. >> last night you went after vice president biden's record bringing up an op-ed from 1981 that he wrote. in it he said women working outside the home would lead to the deterioration of family. we read the op-ed. that's not wh...

In the ground saying we are going to talk about climate change through the lens of innovation and jobs, that will bring a whole lot of heck of a lot of folks in the midwest. >> as opposed to we're going to die in 12 years which is what i've heard twice? [ laughter ] >> and, yeah, that's not helpful. >> that is now being talked about is incrementalist was not seen as incrementalist at the time. with things like the green new deal and single-payer, that those things are now being talked about. >> but, rick, to that point, a lot of what we saw, especially in the second debate, right, were attacks...

About health care. he sain, look, obamacare is gre. one of the things that she tweeted is single-payer is actually medicare for all. a lot of conservatives say, yes. thank you. that's what we have been trying to explain to all along. i don't know if biden will be able to thread the needle. biden doesn't seem like he's got it all they are he really faltered in the debate and isn't doing that well. but democrats seem to like him. let's see how he does this week. but right now, i think a really interesting debate would be bernie sanders and warren up with biden. there's not many moderates left. >...

Party the sides of one? >> bill: what did you think of senator elizabeth warren when she took that on? why are you on the stage if you're not going to think big, bold ideas? >> this is the big bold idea. to actually get to universal health care and make it work and create an avenue by which many of us up there were proposing a public auction but over time if it succeeded, people could migrate into it, you end up with some version of the single-payer or at least of broad variety of competitive sources. >> bill: the other thing that was stunning was how did barack obama followed a favor so fast?...

Rooich rooic rivals to make the same pledge. sanders calling on all candidates to refuse any money from them. >> he's delivering a speech this afternoon on health care policy. obviously this is huge in this race. ryan nobles is following all of it. >> first of all, this is not a surprise that bernie sanders is coming out with this challenge to his democratic rivals this week. it comes just a couple days after former vice president joe biden unveiled his health care policy plan and a day after kamala harris also talked about prescription drugs. essentially what sanders is going to say today is ...