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Chairman rogers, what do you make of this new "washington post" report now? >> it's very concerning for me if it in fact is true. the president seems to have a very hollywood, sinister view of what american intelligence is about and not concerned with the russians and how they conduct themselves around the world. a, it's absolutely wrong and, b, it's a little offensive because you're telling our adversaries it's kind of okay to do what you do, keep at it. that is, in my mind, a little bit dangerous. the russian, by the way, will take it that way. >> eric, just from your standpoint, i'm wonderi...

Personal frpreference. we used to for a couple years obsessed with the idea he was maybe owned by russia but what he's really expressing, right, there is no simple explanation but expressing this is what he thinks political power is. this is what his natural allegiances are, this is where his natural interests lie. >> also, that he -- i think people tend to think of vladimir putin only as the guy that controls donald trump or who seeks to break up the united states and the alliance and destroy us and crush us by manipulating our president, that's the sinister view of putin but he's aligned wit...